Voldemort's Wand: Who Returned It?

[Weasleyfanforever]

Voldemort's wand would have been left behind at Godric's Hollow after the murders. So whoever kept it and gave it back to Voldemort was at the Potters the night of the attack. From what we know though, the only people at the house that night were Dumbledore, Hagrid, Sirius, Voldemort and the Potters themselves. None of which I would suspect keeping it and returning it when he rose again.

So - Who else was their that night to recover his wand? Was Peter there to deliver the Potter's right into his master's hands, and grabbed the wand before he left? Or was Snape there, and under his guise of being a faithful Death Eater. he grabbed the wand and returned it? Or was there someone else there that night that would return it to him, and if there was, who was it?

[Kingsley]

If it was wormtail, he would have had to have stashed it before his showdown with Sirius later, if it was Snape, he would not be as loyal as we thought to Dumbledore if he gave "V" back his wand

I am not sure about that one because it would have had to be stashed for over a decade, the ministry could have confiscated it and malfoy could have retrieved it of course, but I dont have a good theory

[PrettyMS.Potter]

I think Snape returned it to him. Snape was around and I think he might of picked it up and gave it back to Voldemort to show he was still loyal.

[Rooster]

If Snape returned it to him I think that Dumbledore would prolly have known by now. I really don't think Dumbledore would have Snape teaching if he had done something of that magnitude.

My guess is it very well could have been Peter - Since he was an unregistered animagus only the 4 marauders would have known who he was. With Peter dead and Sirius not ariving till after the murders he easily could have snuck in under the disguise of a rat and took the wand and hid it somewhere. Cause looking into book GoF, the first time we see Voldemort reunited with his wand is right at the beginning when he's with Peter. Peter was the sole reason Voldemort started regaining his power - He came and found him and nursed him back to health. It makes sense that he at least hid the wand himself or knew where it was to go and get it.

[Alz]

Rooster is the man with the money on this one!
While I dont usually like 'I agree' posts I feel that Rooster has summed that one up very well!

While it is safe to assume Pettigrew was no-where near the Potters that night because of his cowardice, he had the means to return and pick through the remains pretty much at any point ... and I would guess he went to take a look after Black confrounted him.

But lest we not forget about a few other items that found there way out of the Potters House, the vault key and invisiblity cloak were a couple of obvious ones, someone did decided to have a little trawl through afterwards ...

[Kingsley]

Ok I was under the impression that whoever got "V"'s wand was there that night--I would assume Hagrid would have seen "V"'s wand near Harry when he got there

[Alz]

The house was quoted as being destroyed, this is yet again another reason I think another person might have been present, AK leaves no mark and if a rebounded AK has a different effect then you would have expected Voldemort to be ripped apart and probably Harry in a bad shape from the blast ...
..and as mentioned above, a few items were recovered from the house ...

[Kreacher]

As we all know Lucius Malfoy has played a large part in collecting Voldemorts old school things. Would that include the wand?

The ministry may have had it. - Then while Crouch was being controlled by means of the imperius curse, the wand may have been retrieved. He could also have have had access to other wizard wands before this. Bertha Jorkins, Peter Pettigrew and such.

We do know one thing though - He definately had his own wand when he met Bertha, so he had his wand early on.

Kreacher. ;)

[Alz]

I had a feeling the 'items' Lucius had were passed to Voldemort before he went out and attacked the Potters ... part of his ensuring he was always around ...
Lucius has had to keep up a public private facade and I cant see any legitimate reason he could go to the Potters - as such he wouldn't have wanted to be spotted ...
This is more likely the result of a rat ;)

[Tinkerbell]

I can only guess that at some stage Wormtail must have visited Godric's Hollow, obviously not long after Voldemort had performed the Avada Kadavra curse on Harry, seen the devastation and picked up Voldemort's wand, probably without really knowing why he was doing so.

He probably then hid it somewhere and when he was eventually discovered as Scabbers, then recovered the wand before he went in search of Voldemort before we see them both again at the beginning of GoF when Wormtail is 'nursing' Voldemort before the re-birthing 'ceremony'.

I can't see that it could have been anyone else - even if it was Snape, Dumbledore, Sirius, Lupin or even Hagrid, how would Wormtail have been able to give it back to him in the graveyard?

[Kreacher]

I had a feeling the 'items' Lucius had were passed to Voldemort before he went out and attacked the Potters ... part of his ensuring he was always around ...
Lucius has had to keep up a public private facade and I cant see any legitimate reason he could go to the Potters - as such he wouldn't have wanted to be spotted ...
This is more likely the result of a rat ;)


I am definately in agreeance with the rat being the one who done it. Hagrid had seen him at godrick hollows or was that sirius? - going to check that one.
I just thought I'd throw in a few other possibilities, hence Lucius.

;) Kreacher.

[catchthesnitch]

You know, I had wondered about the invisibility cloak and the key myself.... and had the idea that maybe James knew something was up and that his days were numbered, and left those particular things to Dumbledore, or even to Sirius, who then told Dumbledore where they were when he thought the stuff was going to hit the fan and he was going to Azkaban. (no rhyme intended)

But as to the wand, I'm going to do the "me too" posting too, and say it was Wormtail. (I have this picture of this litte scrawny rat scuttling around Godric's Hollow with a wand in its mouth, LOL.)

Or perhaps Sirius took it, seeing the potential danger value to it, and then Wormtail took it from Sirius in the muggle street scene. Thus far we know two people were there in the aftermath the day after it happened: Hagrid and Sirius. Hagrid took Harry and Sirius wanted to take Harry, and ultimately lent Hagrid his motorbike.

[Alz]

In support of the worm - he did seem to be the only person actively interested in the whereabouts of the Dark Lord ...
I think Voldemort summed it up well - Wormtail had no-one to turn to - his only motivation in trying to find, then resurrect Voldemort was so that he could have a life again rather than hiding away in dark corners avoiding people seeing him.
He accumulated enough things to get his master back to 'baby thing' form and also cared and aided him until the time came to resurrect ... so all in all seems quite compelling ...

The only thing I don't like is it seemed a little 'brave' for him to visit a place where he caused the death of his friends ... a little 'gutsy' if I say so myself - perhaps he did have a little bit of courage in him after all ...

[Kingsley]

The more i think about it--the more I think Wormtail would have wanted as much distance between himself and the scene of the crime--I am not sure he was even in the area--he does seem to be too cowardly to have done that :confused:

Hagrid could have picked up the wand on Dumbledore's orders though :rolleyes:

[Nagini]

If Snape returned it to him I think that Dumbledore would prolly have known by now. I really don't think Dumbledore would have Snape teaching if he had done something of that magnitude.

My guess is it very well could have been Peter - Since he was an unregistered animagus only the 4 marauders would have known who he was. With Peter dead and Sirius not ariving till after the murders he easily could have snuck in under the disguise of a rat and took the wand and hid it somewhere. Cause looking into book GoF, the first time we see Voldemort reunited with his wand is right at the beginning when he's with Peter. Peter was the sole reason Voldemort started regaining his power - He came and found him and nursed him back to health. It makes sense that he at least hid the wand himself or knew where it was to go and get it.

I dont think I could have put it better myself Rooster! I think Pettigrew was there the night of the attacks. Perhaps Voldemort too him along for added insurance or perhaps you have to do some sort of spell on the Secret Keeper near to the secret they are hiding?

When Sirius confronted Pettigrew, Pettigrew cut off his finger and created an explosion of some sort that killed muggles - perhaps if he did take the wand, it was Voldemorts wand he used here? Being a rat he would have had plenty of places to hide it - maybe even in the Weasleys house (poor Weasleys!) or somewhere else that no one would find it?

[Weasleyfanforever]

When Sirius confronted Pettigrew, Pettigrew cut off his finger and created an explosion of some sort that killed muggles - perhaps if he did take the wand, it was Voldemorts wand he used here? Being a rat he would have had plenty of places to hide it - maybe even in the Weasleys house (poor Weasleys!) or somewhere else that no one would find it?

That is a really good point Gini, who would think to look in the house of Arthur Weasley, well-known for being a muggle-lover, for the wand of Voldemort!

Although I don't think it was Voldemort's wand that he used to do the curse in the street (or else the bodies of all the muggles and the one wizard would have come out when "Priori Incantatum" occurred) but he very well could have stashed it in his pocket to keep it out of sight.

I still think that Snape was there that night, but now I am seeing a possibility of Pettigrew being there as well!

[Brycen05]

I think it's a lot more simple than it seems. Just follow me 4 a sec. Remember that Dumbledore had the cloak and the key. If Hogwarts was supposedly one of the "safest places in tha world" (Hagrid in HS/PS). Why not keep it in his office?
Peter, being Ron's pet, must have had access to Dumbledore's office on multiple occasions and might have been able to swipe the wand while the portraits were sleeping and the office was unoccupied.

[Brycen05]

I think it's a lot more simple than it seems. Just follow me 4 a sec. Remember that Dumbledore had the cloak and the key. If Hogwarts was supposedly one of the "safest places in tha world" (Hagrid in HS/PS). Why not keep it in his office?
Peter, being Ron's pet, must have had access to Dumbledore's office on multiple occasions and might have been able to swipe the wand while the portraits were sleeping and the office was unoccupied.

[Alz]

Wow - great train of thought there!
Yah, that is very possible - as you explained he could get around Hogwarts and no-one suspected him of who he really was ...

The most plausible was that he got it shortly after the attack - afterall he did the rat thing to frame up Sirius - it is possible he lay low for a few days and then went back to see what was going on and what was left of his master - although I would question if he had the bottle to do it :D

[Tinkerbell]

After reading another thread, I am wondering whether the wand was 'stored' in the secret room in the Malfoy's dining room? Perhaps it was recovered from Godric's Hollow, I still think by Wormtail, and at some stage was given to the Death Eaters who used the room in the Malfoy's mansion to stash some of Voldemort's belongings?

[Nagini]

I have a little crazy theory. What if the wand returned itself to Ollivander? Maybe there is a simple spell or enchantment put on all things magical that if the owner loses it or dies, it is returned to the person who made it. That way the wizard knows where to go to look for it? I am not sure whether Ollivander would pass on to the authorities that Voldemort turned up looking for his wand though - perhaps Pettigrew went and got it as a rat.

[Brycen05]

I think that's really interesting, but entirely possible. If Ollivander made the wand, he probably does have some kind of enchantment to return it to him. But that still leads us to the original question. If that be true, who found out and how did Voldemort get it back?

[Tinkerbell]

That would be an easy one to answer - I think Ollivander is an evil old git, and probably a Death Eater anyway! So possibly he returned it to Voldemort, probably not directly, but via someone like Wormtail, once it was known that the re-birthing ceremony was imminent!

[Kingsley]

I think that's really interesting, but entirely possible. If Ollivander made the wand, he probably does have some kind of enchantment to return it to him.


I just read this one--I like it--no coincidence that we see Ollivander in the same book that has Voldemort returning :cool: